Location

1367 St. Clair Ave. W., W of Lansdowne at Caledonia Road (south east corner). See Satellite Map

Phone: 416-392-7762

Double Pad

Schedule

See Schedule tab

City Councillor

The City Councillor for this rink is Councillor Palacio

Giovanni Caboto/Earlscourt/J.J.P. (Double Pad) Rink Profile

Compressors 200 (or 225?) hp. 30 hp main recirculation pump and one 15 hp slow duty recirculation pump

Rink change area: There are two change rooms but they are almost always locked. Skaters have to change out in the hallway. Very clean, with one vending machine. The rink operator's office is at the opposite end of a log hall, away from the ice surface. It's unmarked and the door is kept closed. Lots of lockers but you have to bring your own combination lock.

Staff: Weekdays, daytime, there is usually only the zamboni driver. Evenings 4 -7 and all day on weekends, there is a coordinator and a rink guard until 8, as well as a double shift of zamboni drivers. Phone number: 416-392-7762

Maintenance: Zamboni driver on site all day (two shifts). This is the only rink he has to maintain. Ice cleaned "as needed," up to five times a shift, usually in good shape.

Free shinny-hockey and pleasure-skating hours

2011-2012

Free Pleasure-skating: Available a total of 29 hours a week (supervised), 12:45 (unsupervised) during prime time.

Free Shinny hockey: Available a total of 31:15 hours a week (supervised), 8:30 (unsupervised) during prime time.

To book permits call 416-394-5595.

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Comments about this rink: e-mail us at rinkissues@cityrinks.ca.

Opening and closing dates:

Opens: Dec 1, 2012
Closes: Feb 24, 2013

Rink Diary 2012 - 2013

Sunday Dec.2 2012

From 311

Thank you for contacting 311 Toronto.

I have contacted Joseph J. Piccinini community center to get more information regarding the Giovanni Caboto Ice Rink.

I was told the rink got damaged by the major storm we had and it's undergoing repairs. While they did not provide me with an expected completion day, they are expecting it to be ready within days. Should you want to contact the community center directly, you can reach them at (416) 392-0036.

I hope that helps. If you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards, 311 Toronto

Dec.16 2012

rink still closed Dec.16

only sign says walkway closed

brand new boards

Sunday Dec.30 2012

From Rink user: Relmar Boys

After 8pm the pleasure rink is shared with shinny players, so you get a lot of puck and stick action even if you're in only for some pleasure laps. Most of the shinny players are just practicing, shooting pucks etc, but it's a dexterity practice for skaters.

Saw parents and kids and some skating rookies trying their best not to get hit. Even when the shinny rink wasn't busy there were still people with sticks on the pleasure rink.

The rink is not supervised, at least not on those hours.

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Views of the rink

hockey pad

pleasure-skating pad

This Rink has two skating pads. Typically one side is used for pleasure skating (during hours when rink is staffed), and the other for shinny.

From The City of Toronto Website 2012-13

For the skating schedule, go to Giovanni Caboto Rink page on the City website, then click on Skating.

For up to date listings of open rinks (not the same as scheduled openings), see Current Conditions on the cityrinks.ca Home Page

If you notice a different schedule at your rink, please let us know mail@cityrinks.ca
See also the City of Toronto Outdoor Rinks web pages.

Rink Diary 2012 - 2013

Sunday Dec.2 2012

From 311

Thank you for contacting 311 Toronto.

I have contacted Joseph J. Piccinini community center to get more information regarding the Giovanni Caboto Ice Rink.

I was told the rink got damaged by the major storm we had and it's undergoing repairs. While they did not provide me with an expected completion day, they are expecting it to be ready within days. Should you want to contact the community center directly, you can reach them at (416) 392-0036.

I hope that helps. If you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards, 311 Toronto

Dec.16 2012

rink still closed Dec.16

only sign says walkway closed

brand new boards

Sunday Dec.30 2012

From Rink user: Relmar Boys

After 8pm the pleasure rink is shared with shinny players, so you get a lot of puck and stick action even if you're in only for some pleasure laps. Most of the shinny players are just practicing, shooting pucks etc, but it's a dexterity practice for skaters.

Saw parents and kids and some skating rookies trying their best not to get hit. Even when the shinny rink wasn't busy there were still people with sticks on the pleasure rink.

The rink is not supervised, at least not on those hours.

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Rink Diary 2011 - 2012

Saturday Dec.3 2011

10:45 am: A skater said some kids had had a skating party at this rink from 10.45 to noon, and they had the pleasure-skating side to themselves, good ice, and just a couple of kids on the shinny side.

morning skating party

race!

Friday Jan.13 2012

Snow -- about 4 cm in total. Stairs to front doors shovelled and salted but front doors locked. The zamboni driver opened the rink in the morning and then left to open other rinks. When the afternoon shift showed up, the rink was completely snowed over. No plans to work on it until 8 p.m. (At 5 p.m. it was listed on the city website as "operational.")

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Rink Diary 2010 - 2011

Monday Dec.6 2010

Around 6pm, the Shinny nets were out of the hockey pad and no one was on the rink (this might be the hour set aside for ice maintenance). 3 youth were on the pleasure side, trying to play hockey and goofing around. The rink guard was trying to talk to them when we left, and was joined by two other staff. Both rink guards were wearing helmets, as per city policy. One youth who we recognized from Dufferin as a trouble maker in the opening week, admitted that JJP was actually his neighborhood rink.

Sunday Dec.12 2010

Rain off and on all day. At 7.45pm the ice was rough and snow was starting to gather. It didn't look wet. Unlike many of the other rinks, there were no skaters or staff inside (although the building was unlocked) or outside. Deserted.

Friday Dec.18 2010

Nice day to skate. At 7ish, there were 8 helmeted skaters with a rink guard on the hockey side and about 6 or 7 people on the pleasure side.

Sunday December 26, 2010, Boxing Day

fresh ice on Boxing Day, 10.30 a.m.

At 10.30 a.m. the rink was unlocked but without anyone inside or out (no staff in evidence either). However the ice was freshly done. There were a few skate marks on the shinny hockey side, but otherwise the place was deserted.

Wednesday January 12 2011

Snow this morning. Almost all the other double pads in the city had been cleared by lunchtime. But at 6 pm, the hockey pad at Giovanni Caboto was still too snowy to skate (it looked like a plough had taken off most of the snow, but there were long snow furrows left on the ice, where the plough had travelled).

The pleasure-skating side was all cleared and resurfaced, though, but there were no skaters on it. On the benches in hallway, two people were changing into skates. The zamboni driver was taking a short break, he said, after he had hand-shovelled a very large area between the rink and the building. Inside the staff room, a rink guard could be seen playing with a puck and a stick, with at least one other person inside. The zamboni driver said the rink guards had not helped with snow-shovelling "because that's not part of their job -- if they hurt themselves, they're not covered."

He said that no rink clearing had started until 2 or 3 pm, when he came on for his shift. He said that as soon as he was finished his break, he'd get on the zamboni and start clearing the rest of the snow off the hockey pad. One big problem, he said, is that all the other rinks have snow removal equipment, but not Giovanni Caboto. [This is true for rinks in the Etobicoke management district, but not at other city rinks -- Ed.]

One piece of good news is that the front door to the change area was unlocked, and the stairs to that door had been shovelled off.

February letter from Carlton Village School students to Giovanni Caboto (also called JJP) Rink staff

Dear J. J. P.,

I hope you don't mind that Carleton Village Grade Six class is coming over to skate at your skating rink. Mr. Yamasaki our teacher and he is going to come with us to the skating trip and some of the staff of Dufferin Grove Park. They are going to provide us with a skating helmet and skates. We kindly ask you to give us permission to skate on your skating rink. Please and thank you.

Sincerely,

Jack, Thong, and Mr. Yamasaki's grade six class

February 25 2011, 5pm:

Shinny13-17 yrs old. 9 players on the hockey pad. They were the correct ages. There were 4 other skaters on the pleasure plus one member of staff. The ice was in pretty good condition. (For some reason the zamboni had scraped the pleasure pad ice in an oval shape and left the snow in the middle!) The building was open. There were 4 people changing on the hall benches inside. I didn't see any staff inside, but I didn't go into the staff room.

JJP Skating Trip with Mr. Yamasaki's class from Carleton Village School, Friday Feb 25, 2011, report by Sarah Cormier

Waking up to snowfall, I went to JJP at 9am to check out the ice conditions. The building and rink were locked, the ice was snow covered, and there was no sign of any staff. I called Mr. Yamasaki to see if they were up for braving the snow, and he said he was just waiting on the go-ahead from the principal. He had called JJP Rink recreation lead to ask about ice conditions, and was assured that the zamboni would be on the ice at 9:30am to scrape off the snow. We all arrived at the rink at about

Snow Covered Pleasure Pad At JJP Rink

Student Aarriving At The Rink

9:45am, and found the building open, but the ice still covered in snow and no sign of any staff. While the kids started dividing up the loaner skates, helmets and hockey sticks that we brought along, we asked at the front desk in the community centre if there were any rink staff we could contact. The woman working was very friendly, and said that the recreation staff in charge wouldn't be in until 1pm. She called a caretaker, who said he was on his way over.

Handing Out Skate loans In The Hallway

Getting Ready

We didn't see him, but I expect he went to double check that all the doors were already unlocked. At around 10am a zamboni operator arrived. He told us he didn't normally work at JJP but was from a flying squad, and couldn't find the key. He seemed at a loss about what to do next, so I asked if he could call his foreperson to locate the key. By about 10:20am he was ready to go, and the students stood ready and waiting in their skates by the rink while he scraped the pleasure pad.

Clearing The Pleasure Pad

Waiting To Skate

While he worked on the hockey pad we split the pleasure pad in two and started up some shinny how-to. Some of the students were skating for the first time, and used the hockey sticks not only for shinny, but to help them balance as they learned. There are no skate-aids at the rink, though there is a sign to say you can call a central number and reserve one in advance. Many of the students had never played shinny before, and we gave lessons on the difference between a right and left stick, how to pick one that's the right height, and how to pass the puck. Once the hockey side was scraped, a regular old game of shinny got started. The zamboni operator left, probably to head back to the flying squad. We didn't see any recreation staff all day, and none of the snow had been cleared from around the rink.

While most students were busy skating, there was always a handful of people huddled in the hallway by the broken lockers, eating a snack or warming up. By the time 12pm rolled around it was time to change out of skates, eat lunch, and clean up. The students brought out hot chocolate to share, and we contributed some chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. Before we left we had a brain-storming session with the question: What would you change about JJP Rink? Lots of hands shot up: skate rental, a snack bar, more space to sit, places to hang coats, a working pop machine (the existing one ate up someone's money), automatic soap dispensers, clean ice, lockers. Someone asked for mats leading to the rink, and when it was pointed out that there were mats under the snow, they asked for someone to clear the snow.

passing the puck

call shinny game

Everything wrapped up at 1pm, the snow had stopped and the school group began their short walk back to school. Mr. Yamasaki plans on following up with his students to see if they're interested in writing a little report on their trip about what worked, what didn't, and what could be improved for next time.

Follow up ideas sent by Carlton Village students (Mr.Yamasaki's class)

1. Mural on the wall of the rink
2. Bigger space
3. Unlocked changing room
4. Hangers in the changingrooms
5. Cubbies (for boots)
6. Locks for the lockers or keys
7. Video games/board games
8. game room
9. microwave
10. lunch room
11. chairs to help new scaters
12. clean/flood ice earlier (esp when expecting groups)
13. regular maintenance
14. air fresheners
15. clear mats of snow
16. night hours
17. new and bigger lockers
18. snack bar
19. pop machine (that works)
20. rent skates
21. hockey stickes
22. helmets
23. fix up bathrooms

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